Posts by problemaddict 2

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

problemaddict 2

OC,

Thats not what I hear!

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

problemaddict 2

Nik,

There may not be a smoking gun here. There is probably not a mansion in the Hamptons, or a bently garage under Warwick. I think besides kind of having every need met all the time and being treated like Gods while flown around the world.....the GB live a fairly simple existance in a nice apt in a building the fund they manage built.

They do however, hoarde large sums of cash. Its notable what the money is NOT spent on as well. Orphan cows research is some of the best on this board, and you will see when monwy is changing hands there always seems to be a winner. Its not perhaps as nepharious as the millionaire megachurch set......bit its not exactly squeaky clean either.

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Real Estate Business?

by no-zombie in

i was going over some of the older posts of others and without starting some kind of flame war, i got no idea why people are saying that the society is some kind of real estate business.

of course its making millions of dollars in its real estate sales but this a one time event.

its down sizing by selling the furniture.

problemaddict 2

NZ,

I am one that generally shares the viewpoint that when being critical of JWs we arent held to the same standard as any other human being in their way of communicating. If even just one word in our statement seems off, a JW is going to latch on to that, and use it to discredit everything else that was said.

So now lets discuss the semantics. WT is in the business of false hope and religion at the cost of normal social constructs and freedom of thought. They also happen to ENGAGE in business in real estate.

To put this in context, they just netted close to a billion tax free dollars from the sell off in new york, and who knows how much from other smaller consolidations (with more to come). I happened to meet with a large real estate fund manager who ran a company doing consulting and building on anything from high rises, apts, and hotels, to single family homes. His fund was about 100 million, including gobbling up some smaller companies along the way.

WT has completed some of the largest real estate transactions seen over the last few years. Their assets are quite extensive. That puts them in the real estate business. Maybe it is just a,side hustle.......but its definitly real.

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Scientology special on A&E tonight with Leah Remini

by nonjwspouse in

i'm not sure where it is airing elsewhere, but on the a&e channel, at 7p then again at 10p est tonight, leah remini is doing a scientology special.

it looks to be a great show.

i am not sure if it is one time, or the beginnings of a series.

problemaddict 2

Its a mini-series on scientology.

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2 elders just came to my door. I smiled and told them no.

by schnell in

not playing their game, as i've learned here.

they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.

i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.

problemaddict 2

Well hey at least they were cool and didn't try to guilt you or anything. Call us if you need some encouragement........that is about as easy as you can get it. Good job!

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So getting disfellowshipped sounds kind of great.

by schnell in

i grew up in this religion, i was baptized at 14, married at 27, and now i'm 31. i'm also evolutionist and atheist.

i wanted this to be the truth.

i spent years as an apologist trying to reconcile everything.

problemaddict 2

Welcome Schnell.

Plus I don't want you to underestimate the powerful feeling you get when you simply tell the guys not to come to your house. You are not used to saying no (politely), and they sure aren't used to hearing it. I remember the brothers asking to come by, andI said no thanks guys.....hows the build over on __ street? Yeah? Great to hear...ok guys I need to get back to work, so say hi to the wives and hope you guys are good. *click

You know how its hard to get JW's to publicly admit what they really believe?

by problemaddict 2 in

...well not with this person.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49vau8xcmsa&google_comment_id=z13lvfhzisrqybs5y04chvt5brmduhcrivg0k.

ht commenting on this video is mad honest.

among the greatest hit are knowing 99% of the world will die, and that she "won't miss them one bit"!

problemaddict 2

...well not with this person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49vaU8xcmSA&google_comment_id=z13lvfhzisrqybs5y04chvt5brmduhcrivg0k

HT commenting on this video is mad honest. Among the greatest hit are knowing 99% of the world will die, and that she "won't miss them one bit"!

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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

by AndersonsInfo in

i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

she died because of her religious principles.

problemaddict 2

Ugh. Heartbreaking to think I used to vigorously defend this belief. The fact it happens so much but goes unreported, only feeds the delusion that this doesn't happen anymore and "blood is bad for you".

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Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?

by shadow in

evolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.

fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.

the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".

problemaddict 2

Jacob, I'm new to this to a certain extent, but consider that the mating ball of snakes is most likely not actually 10k, simply because it could possibly be picked up by 10k snakes. In addition, this mating ritual continues with all female snakes of the breed. So it isn't a a matter of best snake gets the girl.....natural selection wins! It's a slow moving process over many many breeding cycles.

Regarding fur/hair, I'm actually most interested why we retain any. In particular as I approach my late 30's, why does it want to disappear from my head, and make its way to my earlobe?

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How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

by dogon in

the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

how many actually went and how many died?

can you site the source also?

problemaddict 2

SBF,

I don't think the intent is to denigrate the clear heroic defiance as you put it by many individuals. The reason....is almost immaterial in my mind. I think the issue is that the perception, and of course the narrative coming from the branch is that as a group JW's were this massive united affront that nobody could quite understand because they could just walk out of there if they signed a piece of paper.

that is certainly what i once believed.